From 34f80de0e6e4463ab6cc238372a64e78d3727fbb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Bruce Momjian Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:38:37 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Add items. --- doc/TODO.detail/mmap | 139 ++++++++++++++++ doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces | 310 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------------ 2 files changed, 343 insertions(+), 106 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/TODO.detail/mmap b/doc/TODO.detail/mmap index a57eed4254..fffd6333d3 100644 --- a/doc/TODO.detail/mmap +++ b/doc/TODO.detail/mmap @@ -240,3 +240,142 @@ It doesn't allow you to do several important optimizations. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster +From pgsql-general-owner+M14300@postgresql.org Mon Aug 27 13:07:32 2001 +Return-path: +Received: from server1.pgsql.org (server1.pgsql.org [64.39.15.238]) + by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RH7VF04800 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:07:31 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from postgresql.org.org (webmail.postgresql.org [216.126.85.28]) + by server1.pgsql.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f7RH7Tq17721; + Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:07:29 -0500 (CDT) + (envelope-from pgsql-general-owner+M14300@postgresql.org) +Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) + by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7RFE1f13269 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:14:01 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from kleptog@svana.org) +Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) + id 15bO5x-0000Fd-00; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:14:33 +1000 +Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:14:33 +1000 +From: Martijn van Oosterhout +To: Andrew Snow +cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org +Subject: Re: [GENERAL] raw partition +Message-ID: <20010828011433.E32309@svana.org> +Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout +References: <20010827233815.B32309@svana.org> <000101c12f00$dc5814b0$fa01b5ca@avon> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i +In-Reply-To: <000101c12f00$dc5814b0$fa01b5ca@avon>; from andrew@modulus.org on Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 12:02:08AM +1000 +Precedence: bulk +Sender: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org +Status: OR + +On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 12:02:08AM +1000, Andrew Snow wrote: +> +> What I think would be better would be moving postgresql to a system of +> using memory-mapped I/O. instead of the shared buffer cache, files +> would be directly memory-mapped and the OS would do the caching. I +> can't see this happening though because of platform dependancy, but I +> think its worth another look soon because many unix platforms support +> mmap(). I think it would improve the performance of disk-intensive +> tasks noticeably. + +Well, this has other problems. Consider tables that are larger than your +system memory. You'd have to continuously map and unmap different sections. +That can have odd side effects (witness mozilla on linux having 15,000 +mapped areas or so...) + +You would still however get the advantage that you wouldn't have to copy the +data from the disk buffers to user space, you simply get the disk buffer +mapped into your address space. + +I think that for commonly used tables that are under 100K in size (most of +the system tables), this is quite a workable idea. If you don't mind keeping +them mapped the whole time. + +-- +Martijn van Oosterhout +http://svana.org/kleptog/ +> It would be nice if someone came up with a certification system that +> actually separated those who can barely regurgitate what they crammed over +> the last few weeks from those who command secret ninja networking powers. + +---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- +TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate +subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your +message can get through to the mailing list cleanly + +From pgsql-general-owner+M14319@postgresql.org Mon Aug 27 16:57:10 2001 +Return-path: +Received: from server1.pgsql.org (server1.pgsql.org [64.39.15.238]) + by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7RKv9F16849 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:57:09 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from postgresql.org.org (webmail.postgresql.org [216.126.85.28]) + by server1.pgsql.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f7RKv9q31456; + Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:57:09 -0500 (CDT) + (envelope-from pgsql-general-owner+M14319@postgresql.org) +Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([192.204.191.242]) + by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7RJrsf55472 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:53:54 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us) +Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7RJrGK19431; + Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:53:16 -0400 (EDT) +To: Martijn van Oosterhout +cc: Andrew Snow , pgsql-general@postgresql.org +Subject: Re: [GENERAL] raw partition +In-Reply-To: <20010828011433.E32309@svana.org> +References: <20010827233815.B32309@svana.org> <000101c12f00$dc5814b0$fa01b5ca@avon> <20010828011433.E32309@svana.org> +Comments: In-reply-to Martijn van Oosterhout + message dated "Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:14:33 +1000" +Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:53:15 -0400 +Message-ID: <19428.998941995@sss.pgh.pa.us> +From: Tom Lane +Precedence: bulk +Sender: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org +Status: OR + +Martijn van Oosterhout writes: +> You would still however get the advantage that you wouldn't have to copy the +> data from the disk buffers to user space, you simply get the disk buffer +> mapped into your address space. + +AFAICS this would be the *only* advantage. While it's not negligible, +it's quite unclear that it's worth the bookkeeping and portability +headaches of managing lots of mmap'd areas, either. + +Before I take this idea seriously at all, I'd want to see a design that +addresses a couple of critical issues: + +1. Postgres' shared buffers are *shared*, potentially across many +processes. How will you deal with buffers for files that have been +mmap'd by only some of the processes? (Maybe this means that the +whole concept of shared buffers goes away, and each process does its +own buffer management based on its own mmaps. Not sure. That would be +a pretty radical restructuring though, and would completely invalidate +our present approach to page-level locking.) + +2. How do you deal with extending a file? My system's mmap man page +says + If the size of the mapped file changes after the call to mmap(), the + effect of references to portions of the mapped region that correspond + to added or removed portions of the file is unspecified. +This suggests that the only portable way to cope is to issue a separate +mmap for every disk page. Will typical Unix systems perform well with +umpteen thousand small mmap requests? + +3. How do you persuade the other backends to drop their mmaps of a table +you are deleting? + +There are probably other gotchas, but without an understanding of how +to address these, I doubt it's worth looking further ... + + regards, tom lane + +---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- +TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? + +http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html + diff --git a/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces b/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces index b5def5e3c9..d978540375 100644 --- a/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces +++ b/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M174@hub.org Sun Mar 12 22:31:11 2000 Received: from renoir.op.net (root@renoir.op.net [207.29.195.4]) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA25886 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) -Received: from news.tht.net (news.hub.org [216.126.91.242]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.7 $) with ESMTP id XAA04589 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:19:33 -0500 (EST) +Received: from news.tht.net (news.hub.org [216.126.91.242]) by renoir.op.net (o1/$Revision: 1.8 $) with ESMTP id XAA04589 for ; 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Seeya, Albert +From pgsql-general-owner+M14288@postgresql.org Mon Aug 27 10:31:19 2001 +Return-path: +Received: from server1.pgsql.org (server1.pgsql.org [64.39.15.238]) + by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7REVIF27112 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:31:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from postgresql.org.org (webmail.postgresql.org [216.126.85.28]) + by server1.pgsql.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f7REVkq86991; + Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:31:47 -0500 (CDT) + (envelope-from pgsql-general-owner+M14288@postgresql.org) +Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) + by postgresql.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7RDcEf82291 + for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:38:15 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from kleptog@svana.org) +Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) + id 15bMal-0000Ac-00; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:38:15 +1000 +Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:38:15 +1000 +From: Martijn van Oosterhout +To: newsreader@mediaone.net +cc: Jeff Davis , pgsql-general@postgresql.org +Subject: Re: [GENERAL] raw partition +Message-ID: <20010827233815.B32309@svana.org> +Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout +References: <20010826125450.A11535@dragon.universe> <0GIP004VTV1MTO@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> <20010827091141.A3208@dragon.universe> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i +In-Reply-To: <20010827091141.A3208@dragon.universe>; from newsreader@mediaone.net on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:11:41AM -0400 +Precedence: bulk +Sender: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org +Status: OR + +On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:11:41AM -0400, newsreader@mediaone.net wrote: +> On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 12:46:16AM -0700, Jeff Davis wrote: +> > On Sunday 26 August 2001 09:54 am, you wrote: +> > +> > Obviously, if done properly, it couldn't hurt. However, is it really worth +> > the extra trouble to set it up, and more so, to debug an extra form that disk +> +> I think it's only a matter of getting rid +> of file system layer. + +But that won't work. Postgres currently stores each table in its own file. +Thus, to implement raw access postgres would have to implement it's own +filesystem within the raw partition. + +By using the filesystems built into the OS, it can take advantage of +filesystem smarts already there. No to mention people just being able to use +normal system commands to view what's there e.g. symlinks to relocate +tables. I beleive that filesystem technology within the OS will advance much +faster than anything the postgres developers could come up with. + +For example, by running your database on an ext3 partition, all file +metadata is automatically journalled, with no additional effort from the +postgres developers. You could even choose to journal all database access +(though I have no idea how that interacts with WAL). + +> > marginal utility for integrated functionality? Consider this: should postgres +> > be it's own OS; bootable and everything (get rid of all that OS overhead)? I +> +> file system overhead is all, I think. +> The only thing I am sure about is that +> whether pg (and developers) will have to be +> aware of the disk technology since it is +> evolving continuosly. Or is there another +> layer provided by the OS: a layer +> between physical disk and the filesystem? +> That layer will have to understand UDMA technology, +> SCSI technology? I have no idea. + +Well, a raw partition provided by the OS would hide such details. However, +postgres would have to make assumptions about what kind of access patterns +are optimal. The kernel is in a much better position to make such decisions +about resource usage. Which is precisly why we have OS's in the first place. + +> > oracle allows this behaviour you speak of, but I have never used it. Does +> > someone have experience (or benchmarks or whatever) with oracle's +> > implementation? +> +> I have never used an oracle + +I beleive (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that even when used on a +filesystem, oracle still places all it's tables in a single file i.e. it has +a filesystem layer builtin. I think that's why it's a clear win for oracle +because you *are* actually removing a layer. + +IMHO it's something postgres should stay well away from. +-- +Martijn van Oosterhout +http://svana.org/kleptog/ +> It would be nice if someone came up with a certification system that +> actually separated those who can barely regurgitate what they crammed over +> the last few weeks from those who command secret ninja networking powers. + +---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- +TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command + (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) + -- 2.40.0