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+From pgsql-hackers-owner+M18768=candle.pha.pa.us=pgman@postgresql.org Wed Feb 13 03:52:00 2002
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+Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:48:33 +0900
+From: Hiroshi Inoue <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
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+To: Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>
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+ Kovacs Zoltan <kovacsz@pc10.radnoti-szeged.sulinet.hu>,
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+Subject: Re: [HACKERS] alter table drop column status
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+Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
+>
+> > No there was an unapplied hack which uses logical/physical
+> > attribute numbers. I have synchronized it with cvs for a
+> > year or so but stop it now. Though it had some flaws It
+> > solved the following TODOs.
+> >
+> > * Add ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN feature
+> > * ALTER TABLE ADD COLUMN to inherited table put column in wrong place
+> > * Prevent column dropping if column is used by foreign key
+>
+> This seems fantastic - why can't this be committed? Surely if it's
+> committed then the flaws will fairly quickly be ironed out? Even if it has
+> flaws, then if we say 'this function is not yet stable' at least people can
+> start testing it and reporting the problems?
+>
+> > I gave up to apply the hack mainly because it may introduce
+> > the maintenance headache.
+>
+> Is it a maintenance headache just for you to keep it up to date, or how
+> would it be a maintenance headache if it were committed?
+
+Probably(oops I don't remember well now sorry) the main
+reason why I didn't insist to apply the patch was that
+it wasn't so clean as I had expected.
+My trial implementation uses logical(for clients) and
+physical (for backend internal) attribute numbers but
+there were many places where I wasn't able to judge which
+to use immediately. I'm pretty suspicious if a developer
+could be careful about the choise when he is implementing
+an irrevant feature. (Un)fortunately the numbers have
+the same values mostly and he could hardly notice the
+mistake even if he chose the wrong attribute numbers.
+I'm not sure if I myself chose the right attribute numbers
+everywhere in my implementation.
+In addtion (probably) there were some pretty essential
+flaws. I intended to manage the backend internal
+object references without the logical attribute
+numbers but I found it difficult in some cases
+(probably the handling of virtual(not existent
+in any real table) tuples).
+
+Sorry it was more than 1 year ago when I implemented
+it and I can't remember well what I'd thougth then.
+Though I'd kept my local branch up to date for
+about a year, it's about half a year since I touched
+the stuff last.
+
+regards,
+Hiroshi Inoue
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