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Mike Mascari
+From Albert.Langer@Directory-Designs.org Sun Apr 15 12:57:07 2001
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+From: "Albert Langer" <Albert.Langer@Directory-Designs.org>
+To: "'Bruce Momjian'" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>,
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+Subject: Tablespaces - checkout SAP DB
+Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:56:04 +1000
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+Hi everyone,
+
+Sorry about the long To list - this is to everyone I noticed commenting in:
+http://www.postgresql.org/docs/pgsql/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces
+
+I strongly recommend checkout of approach used in SAP DB:
+
+http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/sap_db_documentation.htm
+
+Their glossy 2 page brochure emphasizes the way they handle
+tablespaces as strongest point for ease of administration:
+
+http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/pdf/50033321.pdf
+
+Directory distribution explained in:
+http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/pdf/directorydistrib_72eng.pdf
+
+Architecture and tablespace/devspace concepts explained in:
+
+http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/pdf/dbmgui_73eng.pdf
+(721K)
+
+A good short overview can be obtained from the Glossary:
+
+http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/sap_db_glossary.htm
+(not .pdf - ordinary html)
+
+vvvvvvv
+data devspace
+
+The user data (tables, indexes) and the SQL catalog are stored in the data
+devspaces. A table or an index needs one page (minimum); a table can use all
+the data devspaces that is the whole database (maximum). A table increases
+or decreases in size automatically without administrative intervention.
+
+As a rule, a database internal striping algorithm distributes the data
+belonging to a table evenly across all the data devspaces. An assignment of
+tables to data devspaces is not possible nor is it necessary.
+
+When installing the database instance you can configure one or more data
+devspaces and while the database is running you can also add new data
+devspaces. The disk storage space defined by all the data devspaces is the
+total size of the database.
+
+devspace
+
+This term denotes a physical disk or part of a physical disk. This can be a
+raw device or a file.
+
+log devspace
+
+What is recorded in a log devspace is all the changes in the contents of the
+database, to enable the contents to be recovered or restored after hardware
+faults. The complete log can consist of a number of devspaces. You can
+define the number of log devspaces required when installing the database
+instance and can add new log devspaces even while the database is operating.
+To ensure that the data on the database is kept safe, you have the option of
+mirroring the log devspace(s) (set parameter LOG_MODE to DUAL).
+
+In log backups the contents of the log devspace(s) is copied to a file and
+the space originally occupied by it is released for log data. The backup
+files are numbered by the system in sequence. The selected size of the
+archive log devspace should therefore be sufficient for all the changes
+occurring between two backups to be recorded there.
+
+serverdb
+
+A Serverdb consists of the system devspace, one or more log devspaces, and
+one or more data devspaces.
+
+For security and performance reasons, each devspace type should be kept on a
+different disk. The log devspaces of a serverdb can also be mirrored to
+obtain a higher degree of availability. The disks used should present
+uniform performance data (especially access speeds) because this is the only
+way that equal usage of the devspaces can be achieved. If necessary, a
+database instance can be expanded by additional data devspaces while the
+database is running.
+
+The devspace usage level of a database instance is therefore a critical
+parameter of database operation and must be monitored. If the data devspaces
+become full, database operation stops. Further data devspaces can be defined
+in this state to allow database operation to continue.
+
+system devspace
+
+The restart information and the mapping of the logical page numbers to
+physical page addresses are administered in the system devspace. The size of
+the system devspace therefore depends directly on the database size and is
+determined by the database kernel.
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+
+Concept of just flexibly assigning space to databases,
+with only two types of space that should be kept on
+different spindlesets, plus the ability to add space
+*while running* is what justifies their claim to much
+easier admin than Oracle.
+
+Many Postgresql sites run with far too few spindles anyway
+and don't have DBAs with a clue what to do with tablespaces.
+Now that SAP DB is also open source, making it easy for them
+could be critically important.
+
+I'm not even subscribed to pgsql-hacker and don't understand
+the internals enough to have any view on whether it's possible
+or how.
+
+But if it is possible to present similar *concepts* to DBAs
+from the "outside", with whatever actually goes on internally,
+that would be really *great*.
+
+Once the internals are done, others could more easily add
+admin tools and documentation comparable to SAP DB. Given
+the overwhelming advantages of PostgreSQL from all other
+points of view, this could be critically important.
+
+I was surprised to find no discussion of comparisons with
+SAP DB and what could be learned from it's source release
+in a quick search of the web site and mailing lists.
+
+Seeya, Albert
+
+
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